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happy anniversary to foster crease and his smoking hot wife. on that note, here's piers morgan tonight. tonight he's a rising star who has it all. bright career, superstar wife and a beautiful family. but he's in the battle of his life, fighting a serious disease. >> you're funny today. >> dr. carey as i call her. >> plus controversial pastor martin chris -- driscoll. why his new book is heavy on the sex. >> if you're married, you should enjoy one another and it helps to safeguard the marriage from a lot of other problems. and >> i don't know why all of a sudden this country decided that we all have to be against each other. >> and keeping america great. >> something that was called the home of the brave, the land of the free, we all agree that we were the same, that's what we
want to be. >> this is piers morgan tonight. good evening, tonight the big story, nick cannon, battling back from a serious health scare and speaking out about the fight of his life. the host of "american idol" took my old job. nick cannon, you're alive. >> yes, and you just turned my daughter into a boy. >> oh, it's a daughter, i keep forgetting that. >> you were at the baby shower, you don't remember one was a girl, one was a boy. >> my humble apologies. >> it's me who just had a daughter as well. >> yes, congratulations. >> thank you. how are you? >> i'm good, obviously it was a rough start at the beginning of the year. but i'm turning it into a positive. >> when i worked on america's got talent, you were super fit and you used to ast to me about how great shape you were. you flecked the guns and so on. what went wrong?
do you know what happened? >> yes, there was a few things. i feel like the thing that kind of brought it to a head was i wasn't overworking myself, working too much, actually was trying to work through a cold at the time while i was in aspen with my family. and i think that kind of just -- my body went into overload. i was trying to use a bunch of cold medicines, i was already on a bunch of proteins, working out and all of that and it created this pain that i could not deal with in my back and i probably had a feeling, that's probably my kidneys. maybe it's kidney stones from dehydration, maybe it's an infection. as they did more and more tests, they found out i actually had kidney failure. it took a while, it took a few months but, you know, through a bunch of tests and studies, they found out that i have lupus nefritis, which is an autoimmune disease that attacks -- it's a rare one.
mine was a very rare case. but it's attacking only my kidneys. >> only you you would even a cool named disease. it sounds like a rapper. >> right? you're funny today. i like that. >> but joking apart, i have known you for a while. it was really serious. and some of the doctors felt it could be very, very serious. >> right. well, not only is lupus nephritis very serious, but the things that it can bring on. and one of the biggest things they were saying was i was more prone to getting blood clots. and i was trying to do everything to prevent that. i was wearing the surgical stockings. i was on the blood thinner, so many different things while i was in the hospital. and after i hosted the preshow for the super bowl, i started to get pain again and this time it
was a little higher and i had fluid around my lungs and i had two blood clots in my lungs and because of that i had an enlarged heart, too. so there was a lot that really happened because my kidneys were functioning right. >> was there a moment when i thought i'm in real trouble here? >> i tried to be optimistic the entire time. everyone else around me, obviously was like this is life threatening and this could happen. so i never got to that stage where i was like, okay, this is it, but i new the severity of the situation. so i, you know, i'm a glass is half full type of guy so i never went to that place even though i knew it was very serious. >> my glass is half full. part of me was obviously feeling really concerned for you. and the other half, positive glass half full was thinking maybe i can get back on "america's got talent" as a host. >> you're too busy. i'm here to tell you, you need to slow down, too. >> i flew around a lot with you on the show. and you used to tell me about your schedule, and it used to
make me exhausted listening to you talk about it. you have this crazy, crazy schedule. you would survive on basically two or three hours of sleep a day. >> i have now been ordered to get at least six hours of sleep a night. >> are you doing that? >> i have to. the doctor's like, you have to lay down at least for six hours. and not only because of my condition, but you can get a lot of swelling so i have to be horizontal for at least six hours. but i'm dealing with it. they made me quit my morning radio show, which i wasn't excited about. i loved doing it. but on the east coast, i was up at 4:00 a.m. to do a five-hour show and on the west coast i was up at 1:00 a.m. so i wasn't even sleeping. >> you made a documentary about this, some footage. i want to play some of this. >> the whole process i've been documenting. doing this incredible health hustle. >> nick cannon is facing more
health problems. >> some days you have good days. some days are bad days. >> nick suffered mild kidney failure. >> as tough as i want to be on the bad days -- >> doctors found two blood clots. >> so, yeah, i'm directing that, i put that together. i have just been since probably my first time out of the hospital in january, i've just been having cameras on. it's real intimate and raw. >> why have you wanted to do that? >> for so many reasons, one to show people how to deal with these illnesses, that they're not alone. a lot of people see me on television talking to piers morgan and different shows. but they don't really get to see how it's affecting me. there's so many questions, how did you get this? how are you working through this? you're going to see all of this on my website on nickcannon.com. i call it the incredible health hustle. >> 17 million americans have some sort of chronic kidney condition.
>> 1 out of 9 adult are dealing with it in some type of way. a lot of people don't even know they have it. and that's kind of what world kidney day, and kidney month, they're trying to get the message out there, to get tested, it can come from high blood pressure, it can be hereditary. the thing about kidney disease is that people don't really know they have it, because it disguises itself as fatigue. so people like you and i, you know think oh, i'm just tired. i need to get some sleep. but it can disguise itself as fatigue to you need to go get yourself checked out. >> how's mariah doing? >> she's amazing. i call her dr. carey. we feel like we have been in hospitals for, like, almost two years when you think about it.
obviously everything that she went through being pregnant with twins and her having, you know, it was a difficult pregnancy for her and then, you know, like right after that, the top of this year, i'm in the hospital as well. but she is such a pro, she knows all the home remedies, she knows when i'm supposed to take my medicine. what i'm supposed to eat, not supposed to eat. >> is she pleased that you're horizontal six hours a day? >> she's pleased because i'm horizontal next to each other. family is first and, you know, it's a thing where i get to wake up in the morning and i get toed feed my kids with my wife where before i would be at the radio station. this is better, this is great. >> you mentioned that, whitney houston died, as you know, a few weeks ago. i covered the funeral for cnn. you tweeted tell our loved ones how much you love them while they're still here, i wish i could have told whitney how much -- how great whitney was one last time. tell us more about that? >> it was funny because when we heard the news, i was in my
hospital bed. and mariah took it extremely hard because not only was that someone who was her peer, it's also a close friend. just to be able to -- i know what she was dealing with, and how people just started to come and let her know how special she was and how to keep her head up, it's like everybody needs to hear that. you know, we want to send the flowers while the people can still smell them. >> has this whole experience for you made you re-evaluate your life? >> absolutely, 100%. i don't way it put me on a ticking clock because i don't think to think like that. but you want to spend each day making sure it counts. you know what i mean like, not wasting any time, but also not letting negativity and all the things we might focus on that are really trivial get in the
way. i want to focus on the right thing. i want to focus on educating people about their health. i want to focus on, you know, when i'm not here, there's a legacy of more than just -- oh, he was a funny guy, whatever. i really want to leave this world a better place than before when i got here. >> i don't want to upset you or distress you, but how is america's got talent without me? i know for you it is a massive personal loss. >> it is a quite different show. that's all i'm going to say -- there's a lot of people -- not a lot, i'm lying, there's a few people who miss you and i'm one of them. i'm not going to lie. we had an amazing rapport and banter back and forth. my banter and rapport with howard stern is different. but it's fun. it's a family fun show. so to see what he's going to do, he's filling your shoes quite well. he references you quite a bit.
he says you were a great judge. he's a fan of yours. >> any other compliments. >> any other complements? >> not really. >> i'm glad you're back on track, because i was genuinely worried about you. >> you texted me, called me, you were one of the few people who actually reached out and was really concerned. i appreciate that. >> nick cannon, good to see you back on track. coming up, what would jesus do? tonight sex salvation and the struggle for america's soul. he's taking heat from the right and the left. you'd use carbon fiber and machined aluminum, to make it more beautiful and more durable. you'd even use edge-to-edge gorilla glass for a stunning display in a more compact form. everything that you would ever want in a laptop. introducing the dell xps 13 ultrabook. everything. and more. ♪
will be giving awaye. passafree copies of the alcoholism & addiction cure. to get yours, go to ssagesmalibubook.com. he's one of the post polarizing spiritual leaders in the country. his new book "real marriage". the truth about sex, friendship and life together. and welcome, pastor. you're the first who has ever come clutching a bible.
>> i brought it as a gift. from one irish catholic boy to another, i brought you a bible as a gift. >> thank you. i will value this. >> i know you get a lot of christian guests. >> not even kirk cameron brought me a bible. your book managed to achieve the impossible. absolutely everybody has gone potty right and left. the right is way too graphic and explicit, and then on the left. who is this guy? saying that women have to be submissive, succumb to their man's advances whenever he wants them, all of that. >> i don't know if i said that. >> you did say that. >> well, we'll get there. >> what was the idea behind that? >> as a pastor, i answer a lot of questions, i do a lot of counseling and finally writing down a lot of things that we have been teaching, my wife and i, grace. as well as a lot of our own story, mistakes we have made
and -- >> there's a lot of sex in this book. you move quite quickly from friendship into sex. unusually for a man of cloth, you're keen on it. >> if you're married, you should enjoy one another. and it heads off a lot of problems. >> i had sex until i became a christian. i became a christian at age 19. i'm not trying to throw stones at people or pretend that i've done it all right. i was sexually active and i became a christian, and reading the bible, i realized i shouldn't be sexually active and so i stopped. and i have been faithful to my wife now for 20 years by god's grace. >> your wife grace, you have this dream after you get married in which you -- >> i have weird dreams, sometimes i see stuff, supernatural stuff. >> tell me about this particular dream. >> it was something that had happened when we were first
dating and she was only 17 years of age. i found out some things later in the marriage like my wife had been sexually assaulted. we hadn't put together those details. sometimes when you're married for a few years, some pieces come together. >> you had a dream where specifically you could envision her making out and you confronted her having after the dream did this happen earlier in her life, and she said it did, you said if you had known that you wouldn't have married her. why is it okay for you and not oak for her? >> this is where we're going to get to jesus, he died, he rose, he forgives me and he helps me and i hope to keep changing and doing better. >> but for people watching this, younger people, for example, well, it's a all right for you. you had all this sex until you
were 19. >> it wasn't a lot of sex. >> so you were born again. you sort of sewed your wild oats and you become a born again virgin. but for them, you're trying to punish them. they can't have anything. >> ultimately sex is best reserved for marriage and if you look at the statistics of sexual assault, sexual abuse, sexually transmitted diseases, a lot of people that are suffering -- >> a lot of sexual abuse in marriages. >> 10% to 15%. >> a lot of unhappy marriages. 1 in 3 ends in divorce. >> depends on how you cut the statistics. >> well, you wouldn't contest that? >> marriage is in a rough state. >> and the main theme of keeping a marriage alive is lots of sex. >> friendship, that's the big idea. >> and lots of sex. >> friendship is really the foundation. >> but this book is full, and i don't want to go on about it, but it is full of sex. >> it talks about pornography and and sexual assault. and the detriment. it talks about sexual assault.
so the talk isn't just about how to do cirque du soleil. >> you said that women should play a more submissive role in the sense that if the man wants to have sex at any time. >> i don't believe that. >> you say that. >> what we say is a couple should serve one another in the context of friendship and that means sometimes he serves her, and sometimes she serves him. i don't mean that a man should be boorish or bully or boss his wife and if he gives an order, she's supposed to go ahead and do that. because that's very abusive. >> do you believe a woman's place is in the home looking after the children? >> i think it depends on the woman, it depends on the family. there's a lot of circumstances. with unemployment the way that it is and all the different variables, i'm a pastor, i have a church that i lead. and when you're dealing with people, there's a lot of complex variables. we have five kids, and grace is
able to stay home with them and that's what she wants to do. and i'm very grateful for that, but we know for all families, that's not always possible. >> many catholics don't agree with contraception. what's your position on that. >> i hold a more protestant position that contraception isn't always sinful. though i love and appreciate catholics and i was catholic for many year, i wouldn't hold that position. >> a critic would say, again, you changed your position because you realized that you couldn't have contraception as a catholic. so you drifted to -- >> i couldn't get married as a catholic. that was more of an issue. >> but yeah, should you be so bendy with your religious positions? >> well, for me, honestly it goes back to the bible and i'm trying to look at biblical principles and be faithful to the scriptures. i couldn't have become a priest because the vow of lifelong celibacy wouldn't work for me. so i don't see contraception as necessarily sinful in all cases, yeah. >> let's take a break and come back and talk about some of the
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jesus christ is code word for getting high on mushrooms so then you can get naked and is the things on fire. i guess if you're going to join a cult, join a fun one. >> i mean, you're not your average pastor, are you? >> i have fun. sometimes i get it wrong. >> do too many people in the world of religion take it too seriously? is that part of the problem? >> i think we should take jesus seriously, we should take the bible seriously, we shouldn't take ourselves so seriously. >> are you a -- >> how do you disagree sometimes with people that you love. that's a very difficult issue for everybody, but for a pastor in particular. >> because you reach tolerance? >> i believe we should love our neighbor. >> you keep hammering it. what do you mean by tolerance? >> tolerating people that may have a lifestyle for a belief
that we don't agree with? >> you have to. because when jesus says love your neighbor, he knows you're not going to agree with all your neighbors, but he wants you to love them. seek good for them, care for them. >> what did you think of the kirk cameron scandal as it's become. 15 minutes here, he sat here espousing what he thought were perfectly normal christian views but he did it in a way that people saw was very big gotted towards gays. what did you think of that? >> to be honest with you i haven't seen the whole thing. >> what have you heard? >> i saw some of the twitter and the blogging, but that sometimes that's not the best snapshot of the full context of the conversation. >> do you think gay is a sin? >> the piebl sbible says on six occasions -- having sex before marriage is wrong, homosexually
is wrong, people looking at pornography is wrong. there's a long list of things that the bible says are wrong. >> eight states in the united states are legalized gay marriage. >> it's amazing because there were anti-sodomy laws and anti-fornication laws on the books just a few years ago. >> but my point is, the bible is what it is, it's an extraordinary book which has governed people's moral and personal behaviors now for thousands of years. however like everything in life, shouldn't it be dragged kicking and screaming into each modern era and be adapted? like the american constitution. my view about this is not that i don't respect christians or catholics or whoever who absolutely swear by every word in here, i just don't believe anyone who's genuinely christian should be spoespousing bigoted opinions about sections of the
community for their sexuality? >> when it comes to the bible, you've got three options, take it, i believe what it says, leave it, i don't believe what it says, or change it. >> or adapt it to a modern era. >> thomas jefferson, he literally sat down in the white house with scissors and cut out the parts that he didn't feel should be in there. >> given that more people think that gay marriage is acceptable than don't in this country. >> we don't know because it hasn't been voted on. >> that's what the latest national polls say. >> there's the polls, the news, the truth. until there's a vote, we really don't know. >> let's get to the point where one day there is a vote. if it was the majority of americans believe in it, would you go along with it? >> would i officiate same-sex marriages that sort of thick? i couldn't according to conscious, no. i think the biggest issue in america is men who walk out on their families. right now, the average child born to a woman under 30 is born out of wedlock. >> that's my whole point about this. there are so many feckless guys out there, right?
who marry endless times. >> or just keep having kinds. they don't fund them. >> they're ghastly human beings. but i don't hear many pastors, catholic one, christian ones, ranting about those guys. all they want to rant about is gay people in loving, monogamous relationships with one other person who just want the same rights to get married as i do as a straight guy. >> i hammer those guys like a pinata on cinco de mayo. that's my sweet spot. young guys who don't get married, take advantage of women. they sexually assault. addicted to porn. irresponsible. for the first time in history, a woman is more likely to be in church, college and the work force than a young single maen. sexual assault, sexual abuse, abortion, children born out of wedlock. 40% of kids go to bed without a father. to me, if we're going to talk about what's really harming the country, that's a big issue. >> i agree with all of that. but i also think what's harming
america right now is just a fundamental lack of tolerance and respect for people who may not change your personal values. pastors like you are in a great position to trail blaze a bit, you know? to take this great book and bring it slightly kicking and screaming into the modern era a bit. because eventually america will get to that position anyway. and quite fast. if you look at the -- >> it's moving fast. >> so it's going to be happen. >> i'm also a guy, i believe the bible. >> it's a good talking point, a racing old read, i've got to say. not your average religious book, i gooeft to say. >> coming up, montel williams and a very passionate prescription for keeping america great. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise.
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i've probably had this disease, we don't know how long. but over the last ten years, i believe it's been misdiagnosed multiple times as other things. i used to be and still am a pretty heavyweight lifters, i think people misdiked this as being an injury from lifting weights. but it is m.s., and i have been living, i think, very well with this disease. >> hollywood, politics, keeping america great, montel williams, he does all three of those
things. he's a celebrity talk show legend, a health advocate, a true political animal. he was also diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1999. you look terrific. i know people, there's one in my family who has multiple sclerosis. it can be a dreadful, dreadful disease. >> it's by the grace of god, but also for the fact that i literally decided -- i had a choice about 12 years ago, either live down to the expectations of doctors who told me i would be in a wheelchair in four years. this disease is so devastating you may as well give up, you have to stop working, or i can live up to my own expectations and set a course. i'm not saying that other people with this illness haven't worked hard at trying not to succumb, but there's not been enough knowledge out there to help us all do so. i've embarked on a course that
i think is pretty revolutionary. i have had a lot of doctors take a look at me and try to figure out why i am doing so well. >> if i didn't know the story, i would never have known you had it. >> if you saw me 9 1/2 or 10 months ago, i would have walked in here -- my limp was much more profound. a year ago, you would have seen my dragging of my left foot. i have changed my diet, i have changed my eating regimen we my exercise regiment. in this nation today, we hear all the political pundits talking about health care, obama care, santorum care, rom in knee care, all this craziness that should really just be talking about sick care. that because that's the only way america looks at it is through sick eyes. we can only try to fix something broken, rather than try to help people understand that if they keep the machine oiled and running well, maybe we won't need as much insurance because we're not going to be such a drain on the system. what did i do? when i say i changed my diet, i eat differently than anything on this planet.
75% of what i eat is liquefied. why? more vegetables and fruits are nature's natural anti-inflammatories. so what's the biggest nemesis of a person who has m.s.? inflammati inflammation. i need to fight inflammation every day. this is something i haven't done for three months. for seven years, my friend. i finally dialled it in nine months ago and got it right. >> take me through your daily diet. >> i start off my day, this right here is something that's is the most revolutionary new breakthrough supplement on the planet. it's based on lanoleic acid. the omega 6 fatty acid. that acid works on the organs in your gut which we know is the root of almost all disease. by taking two shots of this a day, a tablespoon twice a day, sometimes i take it three and
four times a day. this keeps me healthier. then i also consume about 40 ounces of liquid fruits of vegetables every day. >> all in liquefied form? >> i can't eat as much fruits and vegetables by chomping all day. my jaw would be sore eating a bag of spinach. >> any? >> pick any fruits you want. you're going to hear raw foods people say you have to separate the fruits from the vegetables. cheers, my friend, bang. >> that's like an orangey banana smoothy. >> you take this, this is already working.
and i'm drinking four glasses of this every day. that's coconut water. >> that's nice. >> coconut water, watermelon, pineapple, banana, apple and a bag of baby spinach. >> there's spinach in that? >> i'm working on reducing the inflammation in my body. when you hear all these arguments about this care, that care, why don't we have somebody take charge in america. i have heard almost every single pundit quote a former president. the biggest quote when we're talking about health care is ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. if we started off children like this every day, we've got 5 out of 10 children totally obese. >> i totally agree with you. i have a big thick about diet in america. i love america. very passionate about america. it's been great for me.
but when you come here from a european country, the portion sizes, the stuff you put in the food, this can't be right. nothing's right about a lot of the food that's being eaten the food that's being eaten here. and actually you're right, if you deal with it at the start of the process, rather than when people get sick, imagine the savings to america. >> but guess what? in the last three years, i've been to the doctor twice. once a year i go, i take an mri every single year to keep track of my illness. but that means the amount of money and the impact i've had on the health care system isless than 1% of what i'm putting into it. so why don't we have a program -- i don't care if it's obama care, romney care, santorum care. why are people like myself and yourself, why are we not rewarded in some way with lesser rates? i may suffer from cancer five or six from now, but for the next six years in a row, i'm not a drain on anybody's system. not only do i diet, but i exercise every day.
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>> my guest is montel williams. montel, you're a republican. you have three daughters. what do you make at the moment of this whole political debate which is seen by many to be a strangely anti-female agenda by the republican party? >> can i say i'm just disappointed in the entire political process right now, the way we see it, where we have to reduce everything to its lowest basis common denominator. last week, a young man walked up to me and his name was gordy yule. i brought you a cop /his book. this young man served in afghanistan, in iraq, blown up twice, shot five times, when i met him i had him on my show years ago, he was in a wheelchair, couldn't walk. he came up to me on a walker. he gave me a hug. god bless you, my friend. he's caucasian. i'm black. they don't care. he put his life on the line
because he believes in america. okay? i stop and i think about all those guys that are over there right now, and they're looking back at us and they're saying you want me to die for you and you can't even communicate with each other respectfully? you can't even live up to the dream of our own constitution we the people? you've got to call people names? i find that the most despicable disgusting piece of journalism i have ever seen. and i don't know if there's an apology that's great enough because i do have three daughters. though i may say things about people that i don't like because of this political stance or that political stance. i'm never going after a person's soul. that's somebody's child. how dare you? >> you mean rush limbaugh? >> yeah. >> what i find extraordinary, they can talk about all the other incidents that have happened, but for a guy of that experience, that popularity to just calmly call any woman a shut and prostitute, i find absolutely breathtaking.
>> somebody asked me to comment and the only thing i could say was abomination, and we can go back and listen to all the politicos say this person said this, this person said that, nobody said this this way about somebody else's child who was doing what? exercising the right they have in the constitution, the right of free speech to say my opinion is "x." is that what we boiled down to now? >> what seems to have happened, is an american's right to free speech has been abused so much it seems to me that actually it ought to go hand in hand with tolerance. >> whatever happened to the first three words of the constitution? we the people. we're in this together. i don't know why all of a sudden this country decided that we all have to be against each other. >> a lot of hate isn't there? >> i did 22 years in the military. put a uniform on my back and was willing to take a bullet for anybody in this country, period, didn't matter if they were black, white, it didn't matter.
and that's what bothers me about this, because we can talk all the trash that we want. neither one of the republicans that are running ever put a uniform on. this is the first time in american history that we have a largest percentage of elected official who have put on a uniform, have the nerve to send our children off to die. and we got hawks right now begging to fight syria? out won't be santorum's child, it won't be romney's four boys. it won't be yours or mine. we're going to leave it to that less than one-third of a percent to protect this democracy, and while we're doing so, we have to look like a democracy that calls people's children whores and prostitutes. are you crazy? we're supposed to be setting an example for the world. are we not?
that's the way i feel. >> if you served in the military, what is the difference in perspective to those who haven't? >> how about thank you for your service isn't enough? words roll off of people's lips. too easily. actions speak way louder. >> i want to have one more say with you. i love the passion you're bringing to this. >> i'm sorry. >> i do want to talk to you about how you fix america economically as well as all this. i love the passion you're showing, this is what america needs, we'll come back after the break.
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i'm back again with montel williams. you're very fired up, you're very passionate. you're fired up, passionate. let's get to the issue of the way people talk in america. i said, hang on. when michelle bachmann was being vocal about gays, she came on the show and was evasive, you were strong on her. why do you say that? >> in the last few days, i don't know why the media decided to reflect on rush limbaugh's comment and say something i said two and a half years ago in this context, but let's play it out. >> ms. bachmann said in some speech, and i don't have the exact words, we should all slit our wrists and form a blood
covenant. those were her words. i was jokingly on my air america show, i said, if you're going to do that, just move it up a foot and a half. >> why? >> how stupid is this? we're going to slit our wrists because we want to help people be compassionate? somehow, that's been equated to what rush limbaugh said to say, which to me is part of the problem here. the network that did that is the network that doesn't understand what news is and how to do a report. you can try to find an analogy between those two, i don't know where you're at. >> a lot of people said about michele bachmann is if you're going to have an opposition to something, you can say it without bigoted things. i don't want to call her a bigot for her beliefs. i was brought up in a religious family myself. that's not the issue. it's the way you express yourself about the gay community
or whatever. if you start to speak in a bigoted manner, i'm afraid you have stumbled into the position of being a bigot. >> and that comes back to what i was talking about earlier. for me, maybe it's hard for people to understand a person you put 22 years in the military who feels compelled to now still serve. i can't look at another person and not look at them and not think that they're the american i was willing to die for. gay, straight, or whatever. i was willing to die for them. >> that's a theme, keeping america great. i like the positivity that statement has. america remains a great country. what should it be doing to fix itself? if you were an economic political doctor and you could treat america right now, what are the key things that need to be done? >> america has been in a national depression. that's why you do salacious things when you're depressed. overindulge in drugs. overindulge in spending. you overindulge. we need to work at the core of
why we have the problem. first off, excuse me, i'm sorry, again. when we flip the paradigm of what a hero was, i'm not knocking people that have talent, but we're going to have a shortage of engineers. we're going to have a shortage of doctors, of nurses. america, the leader in this world, is not going to be in that position in four, five years. let's look at doctors alone, nurses alone. we're not educating them. how do we expect to stay in this position that you say we need to be in or we're in, excellence, if we don't have another generation waiting to fill those positions to create excellence. >> the aspiration of being a celebrity has taken over almost anything else in life for young people. >> there's not one thing on television that doesn't reward you and try to make you a celebrity for being the garbage man to the rattlesnake biter to the one who bit you. everybody.
i saw housewives of the trailer park advertised the other day. really? i'm not knocking people. i'm not trying to say anything -- wait, i was born in the ghetto of baltimore. i'm not trying to knock a person's status in life. i'm just saying that we're now going to applaud a show, housewives of the trailer park, really? and that's what people are living up to and want to be? skip school just being what the term was that was thrown out so easily by rush limbaugh. make millions in appearance fees. piers, come on, man. people can say, montel, you know what? shut up, you're out of touch with america. i don't think so. i think there's a core of us who understand, the core of americans who really want a difference. not a difference where each side is pointing fingers and yelling. they want to get back to america, something that was called the home of the brave, the land of the free. where we all agreed that we were the same. that's where we want to be.